The title of this posting is not a mistake, but rather intended to show that (at least in my estimation) psychologists are (in toto) busy falling off the table by saying that spanking is bad. Some time ago the pepper-pot Albert Brenner rightly identified me as a positivist. After that, when I mentioned that emotions are an attribute to conservatives rather than liberals/SJWs (whom mostly express surface feelings based on a low average emotional state), he made the remark that Freud (and Jung) seems to have been the last of the real investigators in this area of expertise (my wording).
The thing is that the Patriarchy seems to have been under attack from all corners, despite it being relatively successful. (I am positive about that) Meaning that spanking is probably a Patriarchal thing and apparently a â€œwhiteâ€ thing, hence a bad thing detrimental to those poor children â€“ especially the greatest generation?
The â€œDevelopmental Psychologistâ€ Elizabeth Gershoff literally spent her life on researching and building the argument that spanking is bad . I asked a retired remedial post-graduated teacher if he supports spanking and he stated â€œonly under severe circumstancesâ€. I then asked a medical General Practitioner whom also assisted convicts receiving corporal punishment and he stated â€œconvicts in general never returned for another â€œspankingâ€.Â In fact they hated it and think it worse than being raped in a normal prison â€“ meaning they were not caught again or they moved to another town. Finally I spoke to a warden and he stated that corporal punishment was generally only given to serious first offenders as an alternative to actual long prison sentences. But he also told me, that â€œin his daysâ€ the principle â€œleadersâ€ of a community (such as the Head of a School, the Mayor, the Religious Pastor, the Business Chairman, the Sheriff, the Judge and himself) would meet on a quarterly basis to discuss the current state of affairs, including problem citizens.
This is interesting because these â€œold guysâ€ followed a multi-disciplinary process or perhaps an integrated process to address â€œpunishmentâ€ and other solutions to benefit an entire society, of which â€œspankingâ€ is basically a small part.
But Elizabeth is adamant:
â€œIn a recently published meta analysis in the Journal of Family Psychology, Gershoff and University of Michigan professor Andrew Grogan-Kaylor sift through 75 studies, for a total data pool of nearly 161,000 children, and find “no evidence that spanking is associated with improved child behavior.”
She then follows that with a paltry;
â€œBut Gershoff suspects spanking does lead to these detrimental outcomes. Or, at the very least, she makes the convincing case that spanking doesn’t do any measurable good.â€
What she is saying is that data collected over approximately 4 decades indicate that spanking does not do any â€œmeasurableâ€ good.
Business people in general like the concept of â€œcarrot and stickâ€ where the carrot (such as a bonus) is supposed to incentivize an employee and the stick (to be fired) positioned as the alternative. There are no counselling sessions, stress amelioration, sharing of feelings or other modern bed-side manners. The stick is therefore a widely accepted â€œpunishmentâ€ technique literally used by everybody and I have never heard anybody complain about it. (If there are complaints â€“ it is of no consequence)
Clearly punishment works well with humans. It works so well that cuckolded politicians are willing to sell their wives to prevent personal â€œpunishmentâ€.Â It works so well that youthful commentators would heavily criticize Christian people, but not Muslims (because Muslims are violent). It works so well that accredited journalists would fake facts to prevent bad imagery â€“ a sort of victim mentality. It works so well that SJWs Always Lie ( via the author VoxDay) to prevent â€œpunishmentâ€.
At this point it is clear that there are more to â€œpunishmentâ€ than mere psychology. But to illustrate the point that psychology has been on thin ice for a very long time, consider the following actual cases:
The concept of spanking has been racializedÂ too by saying that it came from the â€œslave-mastersâ€ but some reference was also made that â€œbeatingsâ€ are not actually spankings. There may be some truth to this because African tribal culture does not support â€œspankingâ€. This is confirmed by my own observation in South Africa, but Stefan Moleneux challenged me by referencing a non-tribal inconsequential black Christian church doctrineÂ promoting â€œspankingâ€. Â In fact even in Muslim culture spanking is rarely applied. It may be fair to say (since Iâ€™m not a psychologist) that collectivists raise their children in a more collective fashion (i.e. the village raise them), than western families, where they actually would rather â€œcoverâ€ for each other than enforce some â€œpunishmentâ€ (on whose authority?)
The question remains â€“ is spanking for the good of society? Since western society is the most successful society ever â€“ maybe it is. Punishment may start at spanking, but it quickly escalates in the adult world. In collectivist cultures perpetrators are mostly just killed (beheaded), but in western society a more gradual approach is taken and it appears â€œthatâ€ contributes to success. Here is a chart of incarceration vs 10% wealth showing the more successful a justice system, the better for the economy (broadly stated).
Spanking therefore is indeed better than not-spanking, for the child and for society as a whole.