Strangeloop conference censoring Curtis Yarvin for Moldbuggian opinions


After Kaczynski and Houellebecq, then Varg Vikernes and ANUS, Mencius Moldbug worked his way onto the scene to translate traditional society — hierarchy, nationalism, realism — into terms that post-libertarian and transhumanist audiences could appreciate. His goal was to popularize ideas that suggested The EnlightenmentTM was not the beginning of our future, but the beginning of our end, and that we must find a way around the ideation which it has pervasively and systematically created in all areas of life.

His blog, Unqualified Reservations, poked into just about every aspect of modern politics from a theoretical right-wing view, splitting entirely from the conservative tradition of going with gut feeling and highly streamlined, simplified and fully-developed ideas. Instead, he aimed for conversation points that made people feel intelligent to discuss, and attracted a new audience of tech-savvy nerds who had discovered just how comprehensively appalling modern society is. He attracted quite an audience before going on to different things:

Mencius Moldbug is the blogonym of Curtis Guy Yarvin, a San Francisco software developer and frustrated poet. (Here he is reading a poem at a 1997 open mic.)

Currently a principal at Urbit, an Evola-inspired method of creating an internet within the internet that is more similar to Theodor Holm Nelson’s Xanadu than DARPA’s decentralized messaging system, Yarvin was scheduled to give a presentation at the Strange Loop software conference to be held on September 24-26, 2015, in St. Louis, Missouri. However, the organizers contacted him and requested him not to speak because of his previous political activity, despite the lack of anyone having complained:

From: Alex Miller <>
Date: Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 5:45 PM
Subject: Re: Strange Loop 2015 submission “urbit, a clean-slate functional stack”

Hi Curtis,

When your talk was posted on the Strange Loop site today, I had immediate and vigorous feedback about the fact that you would be speaking at Strange Loop. I do not generally make any attempt to audit or care about the particular opinions or ideology of the people that I accept as speakers; I am generally focused on the content of the talks themselves.

However, in this case it is clear to me that your opinions in areas outside your talk are concerning enough for a significantly large number of attendees that those reactions are overshadowing the talk and acting as a distraction for launching the conference as a whole. Because of this, I am sorry that I must rescind your invitation and I will not be able to accept or include your talk at the conference. My apologies if this causes you any inconvenience.

Alex Miller

The internet reacted quickly, including reaching out to Strange Loop and Alex Miller for confirmation:

It is clear that Miller is lying. There was not enough time for the groundswell of activity he reports such that a “significantly large number of attendees” would have trouble with the talk. In fact, we have zero proof that any complaints occurred at all. More likely, he chatted with a friend and decided he had a good enough excuse to shut Yarvin down, as a means of punishing him for having unorthodox views and with the intent of stunting the growth of his new firm.

This type of activity is typical of SJWs and liberals, who are part of the political movement that has killed more people than any other idea in history, and suggests their instability and revengeful natures operate independently of reality. Stay tuned for more developments as people fight for the right to think outside of the herd.

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30 Responses to “Strangeloop conference censoring Curtis Yarvin for Moldbuggian opinions”

  1. Paul Washington says:

    Unfortunately, it will now develop into a shitstorm that will effect Moldbug and the conference negatively, even if he is re-invited.

  2. It’s possible that they examined Urbit a little bit and arrived at the obvious conclusion that it is a joke.

    Given that it is a mishmash of ideas from 20+ years ago, implemented with wilful obfuscation top-to-bottom, it is at best not at all suitable for a conference which purports to be about modern software.

    • The whole internet and UNIX are a mishmash of ideas from the late 1960s.

      • yes, but you don’t see a lot of talks about 20-year old features of unix in conferences on contemporary computing.

        • On the contrary, I’d argue, you see nothing but them repackaged.

          • Heavens no. They are generally repackaging much worse ideas.

            Anyways. The main thing about urbit is the willful obfuscation. No comments in the source code, single character variable names, etc. And this ‘I know what it means but you don’t’ continues up through the design and architecture. I wrote code like this when I was a teenager.

            Moldbug is a lightweight and a jester, playing the part of a deep thinker. Is pretty funny watching the rubes buy in to it.

            • Reasonable summary of Urbit:


              Summary: it’s a granular functional programming language designed for massively distributed computing with ad hoc entry.

              • Popehat is a fanboy. It’s a shoddy obfuscated toy version of Plan 9 with a functional programming environment bolted onto it. It’s as parallel-ready as any functional programming language.

                Plan 9. Lisp. These are old old old ideas that we have much much better implementations of already.

                There’s nothing to see here except the obfuscation. It’s the work of a lightweight.

                • It seemed to me that the point of Popehat’s article was that Urbit is intensely granular, which allows more sharing of code. This allows common tasks to be specialized and shared like language between humans. This may be a case of popularizing and consolidating existing ideas, as Unqualified Reservations did, rather than looking for a New Big Theory when one is not needed. That approach agrees with your point but turns the question around to one of application.

                  • If the idea was to popularize and share, why obfuscate so thoroughly?

                    • The utterly cynical answer is that obfuscation is a form of intelligent marketing: it makes those who can understand feel superior for having the knowledge and thus become addicted to it. Like what Apple did with its brand, but in practical application. Not sure if you know the history of this site, but its predecessor was an early experimenter in this style, just for different reasons (purely technical language).

  3. faf says:

    There were complaints on Twitter a few hours before the email was sent

    Hilariously they’re congratulating strangeloop on inclusivity

  4. I’ve screen capped what appear to be the three earliest tweets about it. Within a very short amount of time after the 3rd, by a well known, “No Platform” leftist and enemy of #NRx, MM had been disinvited.

    The Sponsors of the event would LOVE to hear from us:


    I’m certain they’d be interested in questions such as:

    Does political conservatism prevent excellence in tech?

    Are only certain kinds of diversity important?

    Let’s say that being Actual Fascist is reason to be barred from a TechCon: Shouldn’t accusations of it be investigated before disbarment?

    Does the Sponsor of @strangeloop_stl, really agree with a radical anti-fascist, dialogue-stifling “No Platform” stance?

    Does the Sponsor of @strangeloop_stl believe alleged political thoughtcrime is reason to disbar otherwise capable speakers from the conference?

    #GG cost Gawker $millions. If StrangeLoop is fully owned subsidiary of Antifa, let’s put it completely out of business.

  5. -A says:

    Strangeloop seems like the kind of circle jerk den of self congratulating that shit like Urbit would be central to. Of course, such people are also usually leftists.

    Urbit seems like it might have some real use on paper, even though I might be unsure what some kind of XML of the whole internet is really supposed to do but, it has already gone the way of the blue brain project. Google might have something to do with that. Wouldn’t this destroy them if it was doable?

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  7. Chris says:

    I’m not a tech geek like my father (my interests lie in metaphysics and traditionalism), which is probably why I can’t convince him that equality and democracy are sure paths to failure. Perhaps Moldbug’s blog, with it technical lingo, can succeed where I have failed, because out of anyone I know, my father has the most potential to see through the West’s present illusions.

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  10. Alex says:

    Urbit is “Evola-inspired”?

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