Comments on: The revolution never dies http://www.amerika.org/globalism/the-revolution-never-dies/ New Right, Conservationist, Traditionalist, Deep Ecology and Conservative Thought: Conservation Conservatism (Crunchy Paleoconservatism) Sat, 11 Feb 2012 23:22:07 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: doug http://www.amerika.org/globalism/the-revolution-never-dies/comment-page-1/#comment-756 doug Thu, 23 Jul 2009 21:21:04 +0000 http://www.amerika.org/?p=2854#comment-756 That's probably a better fit for extremepolitics.org to address objectively rather than in an activist capacity. The above article implies we keep the current civilization rolling on its present course. Petroleum remains reasonably abundant, civil society remains glued together with enough police-prisons-propaganda and somehow everyone gets enough food. Business as usual, but history always tests great civilizations with catastrophe or crisis. Not enough food/malnourishment is another concealed problem in America because it isn't at crisis proportions compared to other places in the world. Uniformed military families going hungry and on food stamps is old news. http://urbansemiotic.com/2008/03/31/american-hungering-starving-freedom-on-food-stamps/ The flame of breakdown is kindled, but burning low because it is still manageable. That’s probably a better fit for extremepolitics.org to address objectively rather than in an activist capacity. The above article implies we keep the current civilization rolling on its present course. Petroleum remains reasonably abundant, civil society remains glued together with enough police-prisons-propaganda and somehow everyone gets enough food. Business as usual, but history always tests great civilizations with catastrophe or crisis.

Not enough food/malnourishment is another concealed problem in America because it isn’t at crisis proportions compared to other places in the world. Uniformed military families going hungry and on food stamps is old news.

http://urbansemiotic.com/2008/03/31/american-hungering-starving-freedom-on-food-stamps/

The flame of breakdown is kindled, but burning low because it is still manageable.

]]> By: highduke http://www.amerika.org/globalism/the-revolution-never-dies/comment-page-1/#comment-752 highduke Thu, 23 Jul 2009 15:42:42 +0000 http://www.amerika.org/?p=2854#comment-752 The British-derived White Americans would benefit from balkanization & seperate wherever they have a solid majority if the Elites lose their grip. Doug, do you think Amerika.org should encourage states' independence & survivalism? The British-derived White Americans would benefit from balkanization & seperate wherever they have a solid majority if the Elites lose their grip. Doug, do you think Amerika.org should encourage states’ independence & survivalism?

]]> By: doug http://www.amerika.org/globalism/the-revolution-never-dies/comment-page-1/#comment-750 doug Thu, 23 Jul 2009 02:42:23 +0000 http://www.amerika.org/?p=2854#comment-750 Ordinary American conservatives seem unable to separate themselves from revolutionary leftism, an American heritage. The paleoconservatives rail against taxes and big government but as yet have no other organizing principles. The new conservatives seek to compete on inclusive appeal against the Democrats, as if to beat them at their own game. Both camps offer strong mercantilist, but trivial social and cultural positions. The consensus of mainstream America as a whole is that of a proposition nation of equals among humanity. Where they may hint at an American type culture, as in free enterprise nation of immigrants, the goals and justifications are still rooted in economic, or more broadly, utilitarian grounds. Modern America is a very large corporation of participants rather than a homeland of extended kin sharing a history and a religion. This wasn't always the case of course. The would-be American culture of Western European Protestant settlers and pioneers was strangled in its cradle and replaced with a modern industrial anticulture of sheer economic primacy, or at least a brief attempt (40 years?) at primacy. Should our mercantilist and managerial elite fail in their vision, the axis of public interest may yet shift from economic utilitarian luxury of mass consumer abundance to that of social-cultural necessity for survival in hard competitive scarcity. That 2-5% will grow and under this scenario, many people expect some sort of balkanization, like Chittum's "Civil War II" as one example. Ordinary American conservatives seem unable to separate themselves from revolutionary leftism, an American heritage. The paleoconservatives rail against taxes and big government but as yet have no other organizing principles. The new conservatives seek to compete on inclusive appeal against the Democrats, as if to beat them at their own game.

Both camps offer strong mercantilist, but trivial social and cultural positions. The consensus of mainstream America as a whole is that of a proposition nation of equals among humanity. Where they may hint at an American type culture, as in free enterprise nation of immigrants, the goals and justifications are still rooted in economic, or more broadly, utilitarian grounds. Modern America is a very large corporation of participants rather than a homeland of extended kin sharing a history and a religion. This wasn’t always the case of course.

The would-be American culture of Western European Protestant settlers and pioneers was strangled in its cradle and replaced with a modern industrial anticulture of sheer economic primacy, or at least a brief attempt (40 years?) at primacy. Should our mercantilist and managerial elite fail in their vision, the axis of public interest may yet shift from economic utilitarian luxury of mass consumer abundance to that of social-cultural necessity for survival in hard competitive scarcity. That 2-5% will grow and under this scenario, many people expect some sort of balkanization, like Chittum’s “Civil War II” as one example.

]]> By: Solon http://www.amerika.org/globalism/the-revolution-never-dies/comment-page-1/#comment-746 Solon Wed, 22 Jul 2009 04:50:37 +0000 http://www.amerika.org/?p=2854#comment-746 Well written. Read your manifesto. 2-5% of the American public is 6 000 0000 to 15 000 000 Americans. Do you honestly think that many Conservative Americans will be receptive to your message when neither Pat Buchanan nor Ron Paul failed miserably with dumbed-down versions of your message? No more than 10 000 Americans can grasp your message. What now? Well written. Read your manifesto. 2-5% of the American public is 6 000 0000 to 15 000 000 Americans. Do you honestly think that many Conservative Americans will be receptive to your message when neither Pat Buchanan nor Ron Paul failed miserably with dumbed-down versions of your message? No more than 10 000 Americans can grasp your message. What now?

]]> By: FJ http://www.amerika.org/globalism/the-revolution-never-dies/comment-page-1/#comment-743 FJ Tue, 21 Jul 2009 16:05:28 +0000 http://www.amerika.org/?p=2854#comment-743 great read, and made me think of Vonnegut's 2081 story. Of course, Hollywood will likely bastardize Vonnegut's original vision now that he's safely in the grave, much as they did with Sagan's "Contact" posthumously, but interesting to know there's a movie version of it coming out nonetheless: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKHzFWkH0Po great read, and made me think of Vonnegut’s 2081 story. Of course, Hollywood will likely bastardize Vonnegut’s original vision now that he’s safely in the grave, much as they did with Sagan’s “Contact” posthumously, but interesting to know there’s a movie version of it coming out nonetheless:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKHzFWkH0Po

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