Comments on: The hero is dead; Long live the hero http://www.amerika.org/social-reality/the-hero-is-dead-long-live-the-hero/ New Right, Conservationist, Traditionalist, Deep Ecology and Conservative Thought: Conservation Conservatism (Crunchy Paleoconservatism) Sat, 11 Feb 2012 23:22:07 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: highduke http://www.amerika.org/social-reality/the-hero-is-dead-long-live-the-hero/comment-page-1/#comment-1280 highduke Mon, 02 Nov 2009 23:41:12 +0000 http://www.amerika.org/?p=4132#comment-1280 Commerce & Leftism are parasitic to Aristocracy & its high cultural standards & WW2's EuroJews didnt have their head up their ass: nobody would take them. Lastly, there's NOTHING WRONG with Halacha/Torah, only Talmudic laws perpetuating exploitation of Gentile hosts instead of enriching their culture. The problem isn't Judaism but Jews' post-Exodal cross-breeding of mercantile & clerical castes producing disproportional numbers of greedy materalistic hatefully manipulative hypocritical creeps. Commerce & Leftism are parasitic to Aristocracy & its high cultural standards & WW2′s EuroJews didnt have their head up their ass: nobody would take them. Lastly, there’s NOTHING WRONG with Halacha/Torah, only Talmudic laws perpetuating exploitation of Gentile hosts instead of enriching their culture. The problem isn’t Judaism but Jews’ post-Exodal cross-breeding of mercantile & clerical castes producing disproportional numbers of greedy materalistic hatefully manipulative hypocritical creeps.

]]> By: Ben http://www.amerika.org/social-reality/the-hero-is-dead-long-live-the-hero/comment-page-1/#comment-1279 Ben Mon, 02 Nov 2009 08:40:38 +0000 http://www.amerika.org/?p=4132#comment-1279 Is it parasitic? I'm not sure, and words such as indidious just don't sound good. Like any "good" religion, the Jewish one has many contradictions in its own set of laws, and becasue of a stupid religious law system (Halacha) Jews were forbidden from taking part in any vocation involving land outisde of the land of Israel. The holocaust is a big trauma over here, and I wish it hadn't happened just so that Israel could be formed 5 years later (and it would have) only by people who want to be there. But imagine to yourself a group of people used to having their head stuck up their asses (the jews who stayed in europe during the holocaust) who had no place to go and came to Israel as a last resort. Is it parasitic? I’m not sure, and words such as indidious just don’t sound good. Like any “good” religion, the Jewish one has many contradictions in its own set of laws, and becasue of a stupid religious law system (Halacha) Jews were forbidden from taking part in any vocation involving land outisde of the land of Israel.
The holocaust is a big trauma over here, and I wish it hadn’t happened just so that Israel could be formed 5 years later (and it would have) only by people who want to be there. But imagine to yourself a group of people used to having their head stuck up their asses (the jews who stayed in europe during the holocaust) who had no place to go and came to Israel as a last resort.

]]> By: Ben http://www.amerika.org/social-reality/the-hero-is-dead-long-live-the-hero/comment-page-1/#comment-1273 Ben Mon, 02 Nov 2009 00:07:11 +0000 http://www.amerika.org/?p=4132#comment-1273 Well Tim, I hope this does not become a masturbation circle, so I'll just lay down the fact: A. Daromi doesn't live in occupied territories, just on a remote farm and had the guts to stand up to terrorism and vandalism in a rather lawless area, it could be another kind of heroism, but I leave it to you to take whatever lessons you want from it. B. You should get your fact right the next time, the media isn't such a good tool of education, and believe me, as good jews we constantly beat ourselves up over mistakes we have done: - Under what law do you descide a settlement is legal? Law is only an invention, and as it has been said in the film "Army of darkness" - "Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun". History will either way be written by the victors. - Only once were British civilians hurt in a bombing which was performed by the Irgun which did not answer to the leadership of the zionist settlement, and they were put out of business just for that kind of behavior. - The State of Israel is not occupied (by the law) as simply there haven't been a palestinian country, only the Ottoman empire and the British Mandate. The West Bank was a part of Jordan and they have relinquished ownership over it. The Gaza Strip was a part of Israel from the start. - Should I be banned from commenting on chivalry and heroism? Perhaps Frank Azzuro should be banned from writing at all, after all, he's Italian, and the Roman Empire had rampaged across half of the civilized old world. Things are always simple and clear cut, nothing is black and white. There is this really dumb thing I do, it's called Thinking. Well Tim, I hope this does not become a masturbation circle, so I’ll just lay down the fact:
A. Daromi doesn’t live in occupied territories, just on a remote farm and had the guts to stand up to terrorism and vandalism in a rather lawless area, it could be another kind of heroism, but I leave it to you to take whatever lessons you want from it.
B. You should get your fact right the next time, the media isn’t such a good tool of education, and believe me, as good jews we constantly beat ourselves up over mistakes we have done:
- Under what law do you descide a settlement is legal? Law is only an invention, and as it has been said in the film “Army of darkness” – “Good, bad, I’m the guy with the gun”. History will either way be written by the victors.
- Only once were British civilians hurt in a bombing which was performed by the Irgun which did not answer to the leadership of the zionist settlement, and they were put out of business just for that kind of behavior.
- The State of Israel is not occupied (by the law) as simply there haven’t been a palestinian country, only the Ottoman empire and the British Mandate. The West Bank was a part of Jordan and they have relinquished ownership over it. The Gaza Strip was a part of Israel from the start.
- Should I be banned from commenting on chivalry and heroism? Perhaps Frank Azzuro should be banned from writing at all, after all, he’s Italian, and the Roman Empire had rampaged across half of the civilized old world.
Things are always simple and clear cut, nothing is black and white. There is this really dumb thing I do, it’s called Thinking.

]]> By: Crewick http://www.amerika.org/social-reality/the-hero-is-dead-long-live-the-hero/comment-page-1/#comment-1270 Crewick Sun, 01 Nov 2009 15:35:10 +0000 http://www.amerika.org/?p=4132#comment-1270 A state founded on conquest that the conquered found unpleasant? Founded on conquest that involved physical force? Could you narrow it down a bit? Perhaps "a state occupied by those who breathe air"? You'd be hard pressed to find a square foot of arable land on earth that hasn't been conquered dozens of times over... A state founded on conquest that the conquered found unpleasant?
Founded on conquest that involved physical force?
Could you narrow it down a bit?
Perhaps “a state occupied by those who breathe air”?
You’d be hard pressed to find a square foot of arable land on earth that hasn’t been conquered dozens of times over…

]]> By: highduke http://www.amerika.org/social-reality/the-hero-is-dead-long-live-the-hero/comment-page-1/#comment-1269 highduke Sun, 01 Nov 2009 14:40:47 +0000 http://www.amerika.org/?p=4132#comment-1269 All people that have been through attempts to anihilate them exaggerate their victims by several times. While I'm no fan of Muslims, Jews are more perfidious & insidious for going against their own scripture & exaggerating the holocaust to create Israel, as 5 TIMES more Jews chose not to live there, not to mention the many yoridim who leave. Jewish over-representation in Western finance, commerce & every leftist movement in the last 175 years is crass & shamefully parasitic. All people that have been through attempts to anihilate them exaggerate their victims by several times. While I’m no fan of Muslims, Jews are more perfidious & insidious for going against their own scripture & exaggerating the holocaust to create Israel, as 5 TIMES more Jews chose not to live there, not to mention the many yoridim who leave. Jewish over-representation in Western finance, commerce & every leftist movement in the last 175 years is crass & shamefully parasitic.

]]> By: Tim http://www.amerika.org/social-reality/the-hero-is-dead-long-live-the-hero/comment-page-1/#comment-1268 Tim Sat, 31 Oct 2009 19:59:03 +0000 http://www.amerika.org/?p=4132#comment-1268 While i don't promote vandalism or stealing, i think you are just taking this opportunity to garner even more sympathy for your illegal settlement. I really don't think that a person who lives in a state founded on terrorism (and it's not a conspiracy theory) British embassies were bombed to put pressure on them, and quite literally forceful occupation gets to comment on the issue of chivalry and heroism. And honestly, don't compare this Shay guy with Mr. Langone and cleverly lump them into the same situaton, which i think you're trying to do.. only one of them did a good thing. Similarly, thinking with no bias in the situation being discussed, Mr. Langone saved a life and is a hero, period. While i don’t promote vandalism or stealing, i think you are just taking this opportunity to garner even more sympathy for your illegal settlement. I really don’t think that a person who lives in a state founded on terrorism (and it’s not a conspiracy theory) British embassies were bombed to put pressure on them, and quite literally forceful occupation gets to comment on the issue of chivalry and heroism. And honestly, don’t compare this Shay guy with Mr. Langone and cleverly lump them into the same situaton, which i think you’re trying to do.. only one of them did a good thing.

Similarly, thinking with no bias in the situation being discussed, Mr. Langone saved a life and is a hero, period.

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]]> By: Ben http://www.amerika.org/social-reality/the-hero-is-dead-long-live-the-hero/comment-page-1/#comment-1263 Ben Fri, 30 Oct 2009 15:27:30 +0000 http://www.amerika.org/?p=4132#comment-1263 There are several similar tendancies here in Israel as well: Every low life, fraud, lyncher or rapist pulls through his lawyer the "Normative" card. So what if a person comes from a normal family? We would expect behavior like this from a screw up, but bigger they are, the harder they should fall, not ask for pity because they got cought. According to a study conducted in the USA, 98% of all criminal upperhanded are second time offenders. That means most of the offenders don't get caught for the first time. When we do, we should not let them walk away clean. There has been an incident in Israel which even led to the passing of a new law. It involved a farmer, Shay Daromi, who lives in a very remote place by himself, and a young arab from a nearby tribe. During the night, Arabs from the neighboring tribes would bother, vandalize and steal from the farms of the citizens. Daromi had had enough of it, and aqquired a gun. When he saw two people entering his property during the night, he shot at them, one of them was hit and died. This is when the media fiesco had started. There were made efforts in the parliment to pass a law enabling people to defend their own or others' property, similar to the one in the USA. The liberals, leftists and arabs said it was a racist descion, and the family claimed Daromi had gone hunting for arabs in the desert. There's a conspiracy theory for you. Daromi was exonorated of the manslaughter charge, but was trialed for 15 months in prison for illegal possesion of a firearm There are several similar tendancies here in Israel as well:
Every low life, fraud, lyncher or rapist pulls through his lawyer the “Normative” card. So what if a person comes from a normal family? We would expect behavior like this from a screw up, but bigger they are, the harder they should fall, not ask for pity because they got cought.
According to a study conducted in the USA, 98% of all criminal upperhanded are second time offenders. That means most of the offenders don’t get caught for the first time. When we do, we should not let them walk away clean.
There has been an incident in Israel which even led to the passing of a new law. It involved a farmer, Shay Daromi, who lives in a very remote place by himself, and a young arab from a nearby tribe. During the night, Arabs from the neighboring tribes would bother, vandalize and steal from the farms of the citizens. Daromi had had enough of it, and aqquired a gun. When he saw two people entering his property during the night, he shot at them, one of them was hit and died.
This is when the media fiesco had started. There were made efforts in the parliment to pass a law enabling people to defend their own or others’ property, similar to the one in the USA. The liberals, leftists and arabs said it was a racist descion, and the family claimed Daromi had gone hunting for arabs in the desert. There’s a conspiracy theory for you.
Daromi was exonorated of the manslaughter charge, but was trialed for 15 months in prison for illegal possesion of a firearm

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