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		<title>By: ProfBob</title>
		<link>http://www.amerika.org/politics/overpopulation-still-taboo-for-most/comment-page-1/#comment-2600</link>
		<dc:creator>ProfBob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Aug 2010 09:07:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find in reading those sites that say that population problems are a myth that their evidence is very sparse and inconclusive. Recently I read Book 1  of the free e-book series &quot;In Search of Utopia&quot; (http://andgulliverreturns.info), it blasts their lack of evidence  relative to their calling overpopulation a myth. The book, actually the last half of the book, takes on the skeptics in global warming, overpopulation, lack of fresh water, lack of food, and other areas where people deny the evidence. I strongly suggest that anyone  wanting to see the whole picture read the book, at least the last half. 
The outdated fertility replacement rate of 2.1 is also clarified.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find in reading those sites that say that population problems are a myth that their evidence is very sparse and inconclusive. Recently I read Book 1  of the free e-book series &#8220;In Search of Utopia&#8221; (<a href="http://andgulliverreturns.info" rel="nofollow">http://andgulliverreturns.info</a>), it blasts their lack of evidence  relative to their calling overpopulation a myth. The book, actually the last half of the book, takes on the skeptics in global warming, overpopulation, lack of fresh water, lack of food, and other areas where people deny the evidence. I strongly suggest that anyone  wanting to see the whole picture read the book, at least the last half.<br />
The outdated fertility replacement rate of 2.1 is also clarified.</p>
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		<title>By: Prof Bob</title>
		<link>http://www.amerika.org/politics/overpopulation-still-taboo-for-most/comment-page-1/#comment-1146</link>
		<dc:creator>Prof Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 19:26:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to an article in Science Daily (April 20, 2009), a survey of the faculty at the State University of New York, which has a very strong environmental science department, the planet’s major environmental problem is overpopulation.. Climate change is second. This echoes the theme of the popular free ebook series “And Gulliver Returns” –In Search of Utopia—(http://andgulliverreturns.info) As one professor at SUNY said “With ten million or even a hundred million people on the planet there would be no warming problem.” It is both the technology and the number of people using it that create so many of our planetary problems. 
There is no question that China&#039;s one child policy has helped the world and the Chinese economy. Whenever a country attempts to reduce its population it can expect a two or three generation period of problems while deaths reduce to equal births. I hope that China will recognize this fact and keep its own population on the path to reduction--which should begin by 2050. China&#039;s actual fertility rate is not 1.0 per woman, but 1.8--the same as Norway&#039;s. 
China&#039;s Platonic-like oligarchy is far more efficient than modern democracies. The self-centered desires of each of us to have as many children as we want; the pressure of some religions and most businesses for more converts and customers; and the need for more soldiers to defend each sovereign state-- each fight the obvious solution to the problems of the world: warming, illegal immigration, the use of irreplaceable natural resources, waste disposal along with air and water pollution, starvation, and the lack of fresh water. But countries commonly encourage more births to enlarge the tax base and pay for the elderly. Then each generation will contain still more elderly.
As one commenter wrote &#039;the earth is self correcting&#039;, and it is, but the correction will cost billions of lives that could have been saved with intelligent action now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to an article in Science Daily (April 20, 2009), a survey of the faculty at the State University of New York, which has a very strong environmental science department, the planet’s major environmental problem is overpopulation.. Climate change is second. This echoes the theme of the popular free ebook series “And Gulliver Returns” –In Search of Utopia—(http://andgulliverreturns.info) As one professor at SUNY said “With ten million or even a hundred million people on the planet there would be no warming problem.” It is both the technology and the number of people using it that create so many of our planetary problems.<br />
There is no question that China&#8217;s one child policy has helped the world and the Chinese economy. Whenever a country attempts to reduce its population it can expect a two or three generation period of problems while deaths reduce to equal births. I hope that China will recognize this fact and keep its own population on the path to reduction&#8211;which should begin by 2050. China&#8217;s actual fertility rate is not 1.0 per woman, but 1.8&#8211;the same as Norway&#8217;s.<br />
China&#8217;s Platonic-like oligarchy is far more efficient than modern democracies. The self-centered desires of each of us to have as many children as we want; the pressure of some religions and most businesses for more converts and customers; and the need for more soldiers to defend each sovereign state&#8211; each fight the obvious solution to the problems of the world: warming, illegal immigration, the use of irreplaceable natural resources, waste disposal along with air and water pollution, starvation, and the lack of fresh water. But countries commonly encourage more births to enlarge the tax base and pay for the elderly. Then each generation will contain still more elderly.<br />
As one commenter wrote &#8216;the earth is self correcting&#8217;, and it is, but the correction will cost billions of lives that could have been saved with intelligent action now.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Azzurro</title>
		<link>http://www.amerika.org/politics/overpopulation-still-taboo-for-most/comment-page-1/#comment-940</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank Azzurro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 23:12:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It affects us all, as those of us in developed nations are the relief valve for overpopulated, &quot;developing&quot; nations.  If our developed world gov&#039;ts had any sense they&#039;d punish countries for overpopulating and sending their cheap labor over here, but Pete Murphy will tell you why that won&#039;t happen any time soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It affects us all, as those of us in developed nations are the relief valve for overpopulated, &#8220;developing&#8221; nations.  If our developed world gov&#8217;ts had any sense they&#8217;d punish countries for overpopulating and sending their cheap labor over here, but Pete Murphy will tell you why that won&#8217;t happen any time soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Elle</title>
		<link>http://www.amerika.org/politics/overpopulation-still-taboo-for-most/comment-page-1/#comment-935</link>
		<dc:creator>Elle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 15:05:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right, so I&#039;m of the belief that overpopulation is a social problem as well as a product of ignorance. The sooner babies are de-mystified as the greatest triumph of womanhood the better. We&#039;re always going on about women having control over their bodies and &lt;i&gt;rights&lt;/i&gt; but then we encourage breeding as a symbol of love.
It&#039;s a biological instinct, nothing more. For as much as we humans are animals, we&#039;re  unique in that we can choose. Unfortunately, I think the wrong choices are being made again and again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right, so I&#8217;m of the belief that overpopulation is a social problem as well as a product of ignorance. The sooner babies are de-mystified as the greatest triumph of womanhood the better. We&#8217;re always going on about women having control over their bodies and <i>rights</i> but then we encourage breeding as a symbol of love.<br />
It&#8217;s a biological instinct, nothing more. For as much as we humans are animals, we&#8217;re  unique in that we can choose. Unfortunately, I think the wrong choices are being made again and again.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Azzurro</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank Azzurro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 13:16:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks pete - always a pleasure to hear from you and you pointed out something I could have hit on a bit harder re: per capita consumption and how reducing it only makes room for others to fill that void.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks pete &#8211; always a pleasure to hear from you and you pointed out something I could have hit on a bit harder re: per capita consumption and how reducing it only makes room for others to fill that void.</p>
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		<title>By: highduke</title>
		<link>http://www.amerika.org/politics/overpopulation-still-taboo-for-most/comment-page-1/#comment-927</link>
		<dc:creator>highduke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 18:58:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s the point of talking about this? Indian &amp; African gov&#039;ts dont want to lower their populations, insane growth is their group strategy because that way they get more aid from the UN, charities &amp; 1st World states and these funds sustain their population well beyond these countries&#039; capacity to sustain them independently while enabling them to build up their military, as the amount of aid = buying of political loyalty &amp; economic perks by the aid-provider. Worry about our birthrate instead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s the point of talking about this? Indian &amp; African gov&#8217;ts dont want to lower their populations, insane growth is their group strategy because that way they get more aid from the UN, charities &amp; 1st World states and these funds sustain their population well beyond these countries&#8217; capacity to sustain them independently while enabling them to build up their military, as the amount of aid = buying of political loyalty &amp; economic perks by the aid-provider. Worry about our birthrate instead.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete Murphy</title>
		<link>http://www.amerika.org/politics/overpopulation-still-taboo-for-most/comment-page-1/#comment-925</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete Murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 13:01:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Environmentalists shun the subject of overpopulation because it erodes their support, especially among the religious right.  They&#039;ve found it much more popular to attack consumption, forgetting that reduced per capita consumption only makes room for more consumers, and not realizing that reduced per capita consumption equates to reduced per capita employment, resulting in rising unemployment and poverty.

It&#039;s the government&#039;s role to adopt policies that encourage a stable or, in the case of overpopulated nations, a declining population, through reduced rates of immigration and economic incentives that promote a lower birth rate.  Unfortunately, governments won&#039;t adopt such policies as long as economists promote the idea that population growth is a vital component to a healthy economy.

If and when economists ever emerge from the fetal position they assumed following the beating they took over the seeming failure of Malthus&#039; theory, and once again consider the ramifications of population growth, they may come to see the relationship between population density and per capita consumption and how excessive population growth actually becomes cancerous for the economy.  Only then, when people understand how overpopulation is hitting them where it really hurts - in the wallet - will they change their attitudes toward the subject.  

Pete Murphy
Author, &quot;Five Short Blasts&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Environmentalists shun the subject of overpopulation because it erodes their support, especially among the religious right.  They&#8217;ve found it much more popular to attack consumption, forgetting that reduced per capita consumption only makes room for more consumers, and not realizing that reduced per capita consumption equates to reduced per capita employment, resulting in rising unemployment and poverty.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s the government&#8217;s role to adopt policies that encourage a stable or, in the case of overpopulated nations, a declining population, through reduced rates of immigration and economic incentives that promote a lower birth rate.  Unfortunately, governments won&#8217;t adopt such policies as long as economists promote the idea that population growth is a vital component to a healthy economy.</p>
<p>If and when economists ever emerge from the fetal position they assumed following the beating they took over the seeming failure of Malthus&#8217; theory, and once again consider the ramifications of population growth, they may come to see the relationship between population density and per capita consumption and how excessive population growth actually becomes cancerous for the economy.  Only then, when people understand how overpopulation is hitting them where it really hurts &#8211; in the wallet &#8211; will they change their attitudes toward the subject.  </p>
<p>Pete Murphy<br />
Author, &#8220;Five Short Blasts&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Quintus, Mauser of Kālī</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quintus, Mauser of Kālī</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 03:25:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, Berserker&#039;s my slave name :)

Great Article. No raindrop believes it is responsible for the flood.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, Berserker&#8217;s my slave name :)</p>
<p>Great Article. No raindrop believes it is responsible for the flood.</p>
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		<title>By: Berserker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Berserker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 00:28:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some hyper-socialists tried to paint me as a paranoid schizophrenic recently. Then an absolutely hideous transexual nurse said I was antisocial because I didn&#039;t want to participate in a &#039;lick barney the purple dinosaur&#039;s pussy&#039; style circle jerk discussion about how &#039;universal health care is our only hope&#039;. 

Fucking pansies. Glad to see you guys are still keeping it real. I plan to do my part. 

I&#039;m a fascist?

Here&#039;s my boxers and some rice papers. Have a smoke. 

Much as I try to convince myself, I&#039;m not a nihilist. It is, however a very useful tool I utilize frequently. I&#039;m actually a Gnostic Catholic, and I enjoy it very much. I&#039;m also Bisexual, Autistic, OCD, Epileptic (Simple and Complex Partial Seizures) and Dyslexic. 

I&#039;m also a fully self actualized Anglicized Germano Celt and a third year HVAC Apprentice (Universally EPA Certified). 

Thanks to the GNAA, Corrupt and Amerika staff for all the moral support. 

Scientology MUST BE STOPPED. As soon as I have a decent supply of Trileptal I plan to travel back to Florida, get the rest of my property and move to Texas. If I ever get a learning disability scholarship, I might even go to College someday. They still say I&#039;m bipolar and not autistic. If they did, a ton of Physicians and former employers would have to admit they got me all wrong.

To the Socialist majority: Any time you feel like tasting that foot of yours. 

Freedom of Speech. Ain&#039;t that a bitch? I don&#039;t think it is, but many people do. 

They can all perch and spin for all I care. I love the Earth, I love myself, and I love all my friends in every part of the World. 

Come join the fun, wherever you are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some hyper-socialists tried to paint me as a paranoid schizophrenic recently. Then an absolutely hideous transexual nurse said I was antisocial because I didn&#8217;t want to participate in a &#8216;lick barney the purple dinosaur&#8217;s pussy&#8217; style circle jerk discussion about how &#8216;universal health care is our only hope&#8217;. </p>
<p>Fucking pansies. Glad to see you guys are still keeping it real. I plan to do my part. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m a fascist?</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s my boxers and some rice papers. Have a smoke. </p>
<p>Much as I try to convince myself, I&#8217;m not a nihilist. It is, however a very useful tool I utilize frequently. I&#8217;m actually a Gnostic Catholic, and I enjoy it very much. I&#8217;m also Bisexual, Autistic, OCD, Epileptic (Simple and Complex Partial Seizures) and Dyslexic. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m also a fully self actualized Anglicized Germano Celt and a third year HVAC Apprentice (Universally EPA Certified). </p>
<p>Thanks to the GNAA, Corrupt and Amerika staff for all the moral support. </p>
<p>Scientology MUST BE STOPPED. As soon as I have a decent supply of Trileptal I plan to travel back to Florida, get the rest of my property and move to Texas. If I ever get a learning disability scholarship, I might even go to College someday. They still say I&#8217;m bipolar and not autistic. If they did, a ton of Physicians and former employers would have to admit they got me all wrong.</p>
<p>To the Socialist majority: Any time you feel like tasting that foot of yours. </p>
<p>Freedom of Speech. Ain&#8217;t that a bitch? I don&#8217;t think it is, but many people do. </p>
<p>They can all perch and spin for all I care. I love the Earth, I love myself, and I love all my friends in every part of the World. </p>
<p>Come join the fun, wherever you are.</p>
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